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Old 04-03-2018, 03:58 PM   #1
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For my upcoming birthday I'm thinking about getting an upper arm tattoo. Since I'm a huge fan of the work of Scorsese, I'm thinking about getting a tattoo inspired by three of his films: Mean Streets, Goodfellas and Casino.
My idea is to have a gun in the middle and have Joe Pesci on one side and Robert de Niro on the other. Before I go to the tattoo parlor for an appointment, I'm worried that this idea might be too big. Could two portrait faces work on this arm? It would mean a lot of small details.
Here are the faces I mean:
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:14 PM   #2
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No more than 5 portraits to a sleeve made of portraits and you will get 3 at the top and 2 at the bottom, well one will be sort of in the middle.

You're idea is amazing, a gangster sleeve, get a top end artist on it and it will be epic.

Where are you from and what is your budget?
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:09 PM   #3
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If you want the two portraits side by side youíll need to wrap all the way around your arm, so one on the inside of your bicep the other on your outer upper arm. Any smaller and itís probably going to be too small to do well. Even doing that getting the gun inbetween might be tricky, you might have to stagger them so it covers pretty much youíre entire upper arm, elbow to shoulder wrapping all round. Thatís probably the only way Iíd want to fit 3 separate images into an upper arm piece.

The photo of Joe Pesci youíve attached is nowhere near good enough quality for a good artist to work from, youíll have to find a much higher resolution photo I would imagine. If you google image search him you can filter the resolution at the top, try first with HD photography only and see if you can find any you like, if not drop it down one and go from there, thatís how I usually do it.
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:21 PM   #4
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This could work well or it could be a disaster, depending on how good the artist is, not only at realism tattoos but also at composition. Do you have an artist in mind already? We really need to know this before telling you if this is a good idea or not.
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:48 PM   #5
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I'm from Holland and well the budget will hopefully not be more than 300 euro's. I'm obviously a huge fan of Scorsese. I'm also considering a Raging Bull tattoo on my lower arm.

Considering the gun, I was thinking this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ets_poster.jpg

I'm thinking of putting the barrel of the gun between those two characters. So not the whole gun.

The artist I'm thinking off is quite respected- at least in my circles. Here are some of his portfolio:
https://www.taintedlovetattoo.nl/crew/crunch/
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You are looking for realism right? If so, I think you should find an artist that specializes in it. I didn't see that in his portfolio. There is some but it's not great. I like some of his other stuff, just not his realism.

I try not to be a tattoo snob but when it comes to realism, you need someone really good at it. But I'm not sure if you can get someone really good at realism to do your whole upper arm for 300.

My advice would be to save up and find an artist better suited for this project. You won't regret it.

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Old 04-03-2018, 10:24 PM   #7
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As others have said, if you're looking for realism I definitely would not go to the artist you've chosen. Whilst some of his work is not bad, he seems to be a jack of all trades and you'd need someone who specialises in realism.

Your idea is really good and could look amazing, but it could also look really bad if given to the wrong artist. Also, I reckon you'd need to triple or even quadruple your budget, dependent on who you go to of course, but it will be worth it.
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Below are a couple links to pictures that are similar to what I think you have in mind. The artist you've chosen is not going to be able to achieve this. And the artists who can are going to charge more than $300.

I'm not suggesting you need to go to Las Vegas to see Robert Pho. There are artists closer to you that can do this type of work. I'm just showing these pictures because they jumped to mind when I read about your idea.

Read the comment on the second picture. Robert addresses some of your concerns about squeezing multiple portraits into a small space.

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Old 04-03-2018, 11:11 PM   #9
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Thanks for replies. The artist Crunch made a design for me once for an earlier idea of a tattoo, which was closer to this style: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...g?v=1367019485
But you're absolutely right. If I want something more realistic, it's better to find an artist that fits this particular style. Though I still think something in that more cartoony style would fit a Raging bull Tattoo on my lower arm.

The thing is, I don't just want portraits, I want it to be an ode, like a poster for nonexisting film.

One other option is getting a tattoo in Poland, since I'm there a lot for my girlfriend. This tattoo parlor seems more specialized in realistic tattoos: https://www.facebook.com/pg/katowice...11660435570303

What do you think?
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:35 PM   #10
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That artist is a way better choice for this project (although I'd want to see some healed work). I'm talking about Kamil specifically, not the shop. Shops don't do tattoos, people do, try to get out of the habit of thinking about shops and focus on specific artists. I'd have Kamil do your whole arm. Your other artist is fine at some things but he's not in the same class as your guy in Poland.

Even though the design Crunch did for you is not photo realism, I still have my doubts about how well he could execute it as a tattoo. Making the design is easier than doing the tattoo. Tattooing images of people is not his strength.

Honestly, I'm having a hard time understanding how you are aware of both of those artists and are even thinking about Crunch as an option for this. Maybe it's because he's well regarded in your circle so there is some clout that comes along with getting tattooed by him?

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