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Old 06-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #11
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no insurance....? no liecence.......well thats what the belfast ehos tell us.

so if the insurers will not supply insurance for under 18s...? thats it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:50 PM   #12
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in UK law it comes under...Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1982 (c. 30) part 8....like i say nothing to do with the tattooing of minors act...
scotland maybe different but i'm sure NI is the same pert
Had a look but I can't see any mention of age? I looked here :
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatut...en_5#pt8-l1g15

Maybe I'm just missing it but i'd like to see it so i can show it to wannabe 16 year olds
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:14 PM   #13
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i think that link is a guide for the local councils on 'how to' implement the rules not the actual rules...i'm sure the info is on the net somewhere???
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:23 PM   #14
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in UK law it comes under...Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1982 (c. 30) part 8....like i say nothing to do with the tattooing of minors act...
scotland maybe different but i'm sure NI is the same pert
that law mentions nothing about age of people tattooing.

nor does it mention barring people under 18 to enter such places,

tthe tattooing of minors prohibits them being tattooed, but theres nothign in force prohibiting them going in,

unless its on your insurance form stating, for the purposes of safety, you wont allow minors in.

so looking at this, you could have a 16 yr old, who is proficient at tattooing (find me one of those! hah) could legally tattoo, and be, in theory, licenced,


its a loophole.

even stronger arguement : if its an "official" apprentice, working under a licenced tattooist, cos legally, he;d working under "trained and competent" supervision.

thats going by the law youve linked anyway.

~takes health and safety law hat off~

so aye,

loophole.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:25 PM   #15
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the jocks have a full one "requirement list" of tattoo and piercing places,

(what should be where, what they need to have etc)

and are probably the ones in the UK that have their shit squared away regarding council inspections.

id be very UNsurprised if UK councils and authority's use the Scottish legislature as their guide.
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loopholes galore god bless the UK legal system, quite similar to the age limit regarding alcohol consumption vs purchase non?
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:30 PM   #17
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loopholes galore god bless the UK legal system, quite similar to the age limit regarding alcohol consumption vs purchase non?
deffo, the laws are only there to protect the goverment from taking the flack and not to help us...it's much easier to let us take the blame and pay the price ie fines
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The licencing of the building doesn't relate to the age of anyone entering the building according to our EHO. I asked because we pierce age 16 and over for non intimate piercings and I checked that there were no issues with having under 18's in the building.
The licence only relates to the competent hygiene/working practices element and nothing else (except the obvious adhering to the tattooing of minor act). It's not like a gaming or drinking licence, which gained through the council licencing dept, or possibly even a magistrates court. Ours are provided after examination of premises by an eho.
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:03 AM   #19
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a few of the schools ask if we can give art students a place for work experience.......my easy way out is to just tell them we are not insured to have them work here........?

it has worked well for us so far.

i honestly dont think there should be a problem with under 18s actually putting on tattoos......if they have the talent .? they have the talent.!

but how many times will we see bad work done by kit heads.....who believe they are gods gift to tattooing.?

think if we want to be angered we should be directing our anger to the suppliers on e.bay, and those who sell to every tom dick and fanny.!

and not the 16 yearold wanting to apprentice the best he can in a studio.

the way i started was not the best way.......bought some gear off a bloke who couldnt use it right.?

dabbled on a few mates, then picked the brains of every tattoo artist i met,or new.
eventually there was a few who seen i was serious about the art of tattoo.

granted i didnt do every tattoo perectly......but to the best of my abilty at the time.

looking back i know where i made my mistakes, we cant turn the clock back, but we can advise those wanting to get into the world of tattooing, that their best option is to apprentice with a reputable artist.

but how can we win against e.bay,or those who supply to all n sundry.?
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